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EXPELLEDBefore we start know that I don’t want to fight. I am just going to the place that I believe God wants me to go. It’s ok if it isn’t the path for you. 🙂 You have your path.  I just ask that you have an open mind.

Alright. I posted this on my Facebook profile and have taken a bit of heat for it. “We believe that we can overrule Jesus’ central teaching of LOVE if something we view as SIN is involved” I got the idea from a book I am reading called “Jesus, The Bible and Homosexuality” by Dr. Jack Rogers. He talks about it wasn’t very long ago that the Church believed that slavery was not only acceptable but was God’s will. They even were able to provide scripture to back it up. It wasn’t very long ago that African Americans and women did not have the same rights as white men. We are talking about the 60’s and 70’s not the distant past. The point is that the church thought it was right, biblical and in God’s will, but it wasn’t.  I think we need to be very careful how we behave toward the outside world. We have caused a lot of damage. It seems we ought to known as a people of love and grace but we aren’t. We are seen as judgmental and unloving. Our priority should be Loving GOD and Loving People. It’s really what Jesus said was the most important. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these.” Mark 12:30-31 niv We really like to classify sin. Even if you are a Christian you still sin. We all sin. (If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. 1 John 1:8 niv) We just think some sins are worse than others. Sexual sin is the biggest. So you aren’t attracted to members of the same sex, does that make you better because you aren’t tempted? What are you tempted to? How do you do with that? “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.” Matthew 7:1-3 niv. Sin doesn’t send someone to Hell, it’s your relationship or lack that picks your final destination. Jesus said LOVE. Please lets LOVE. If I’m not a Christian and society says its ok to sleep together before marriage (and it does) what can I possible say that will make someone think sex before marriage is wrong? How about if a person is Gay. Society says its ok. What could I possibly say that would make them not Gay? Nothing. I could say a lot that might make that person think I’m a jerk and even worse than that that God is a jerk. The whole conversation would shut down. I want to introduce them to the God that loves them and died for them even while they (and we) were sinners. He is able to fix whatever he wants. He’s changing me.

Here is a more in depth article if you want to go deeper.

http://www.soulforce.org/article/homosexuality-bible-gay-christian

I really do know all of the arguments that you are going to use to dissuade me from believing / acting as I do. I don’t want to argue with you about it. If you are offended and don’t want to read anymore please don’t. I LOVE ya! m

Make sure you read the comments on this blog, we go a lot further with this topic. (the link for the comments is at the top). Also please take the time to do our poll below. It tracks answers not who said what. 🙂

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paradigmshift

It's really been less than 5.

My mind keeps having to change and it is becoming more open. I really believe that as a follower of Jesus there should be a bunch of paradigm shifts (A set of assumptions, concepts, values, and practices that constitutes a way of viewing reality) I think I’ve spoken of this before but heck I’m 43 now and my memory isn’t the best so I’ll go over it again. Once again we should have serious mind changes. You see we don’t have it all figured out and if we are becoming better then we have to change our mind. I’m different than I was 5 years ago and I’m different than was 5 weeks ago. So here are some things I have heard in the last few weeks that changed my mind …

I’ve been chewing on this one for a while. Churches I have been a part of have often really been down on people with obvious sin in their lives. I don’t think God really quantifies sin like we do. We have real problems with specific “sins”. Sexual sins always cause the most anger. So if you have an obvious sin in your life we are likely to think less of you. So the less obvious sin in your life the more the church exalts you and you can serve and move into leadership. So does this mean you don’t have sin. No! You sin and if God doesn’t quantify sin then should we? No. So imagine that society has told you all your life that it is ok to live together before marriage. What am I going to say to you that will change your mind? Nothing. What might happen if I beat you over the head with my beliefs? I will be less likely to be able to introduce you to the real God. Not the one we have made up. So imagine you are Homosexual. Society has, once again, said for your whole life that Homosexuality is acceptable. What could I possible say that could make you no longer gay? Nothing. Could I beat you over the head with my beliefs and lose the opportunity to show you what Jesus was really like? Yes. Which is more important? Proving you wrong or representing God correctly. We should introduce people to God and then trust Him to change the things he wants changed. He is working on plenty of things in me and I don’t have time to fix you. I can’t anyway. This doesn’t mean I don’t care or that we shouldn’t try and assist each other but it does mean that you had better really love someone before you try and correct them.

Walking toward God is walking away from sin.

We Don’t want to try and teach people how to “Act” christian we want to introduce and foster a relationship with the real living God.

I’m not talking about moral relativism. Truth is truth, if it is true for me it is true for you but I am talking about allowing people to discover truth at a different pace and in different time frames.

You cannot squeeze a caterpillar into a butterfly mold and make it fly. That kind of transformation happens from the inside.

Supposing We Really Found Him – It is always shocking to meet life where we thought we were alone. ‘Look out!’ we cry, ‘it’s alive’. And therefore this is the very point at which so many draw back – I would have done so myself if I could – and proceed no further with Christianity. An ‘impersonal God’ – well and good. A subjective God of beauty, truth and goodness, inside our own heads – better still. A formless life-force surging through us, a vast power which we can tap – best of all. But God Himself, alive, pulling at the other end of the cord, perhaps approaching at an infinite speed, the hunter, king, husband – that is quite another matter. There comes a moment when the children who have been playing at burglars hush suddenly: was that a real footstep in the hall? There comes a moment when people who have been dabbling in religion (‘Man’s search for God!’) suddenly draw back. Supposing we really found Him? We never meant it to come to that! Worse still, supposing He had found us? – C.S. Lewis from Miracles
Supposing We Really Found Him – It is always shocking to meet life where we thought we were alone. ‘Look out!’ we cry, ‘it’s alive’. And therefore this is the very point at which so many draw back – I would have done so myself if I could – and proceed no further with Christianity. An ‘impersonal God’ – well and good. A subjective God of beauty, truth and goodness, inside our own heads – better still. A formless life-force surging through us, a vast power which we can tap – best of all. But God Himself, alive, pulling at the other end of the cord, perhaps approaching at an infinite speed, the hunter, king, husband – that is quite another matter. There comes a moment when the children who have been playing at burglars hush suddenly: was that a real footstep in the hall? There comes a moment when people who have been dabbling in religion (‘Man’s search for God!’) suddenly draw back. Supposing we really found Him? We never meant it to come to that! Worse still, supposing He had found us? – C.S. Lewis from Miracles
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